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Old 04-07-2017, 06:22 PM   #1711
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100% this isn't enough to stop Assad from doing what he's doing. The added spectre of the ISIS situation makes for an interesting situation where Western nations are less willing to commit to regime change while Assad himself would find it in his best interest to drag his feet on the cooperative offensive against ISIS in order to keep them around for as long as possible.

It really makes no sense to me why Assad would use chemical weapons in the current situation where he was (likely) winning or certainly had the upper hand. The results of the investigation better turn up a smoking gun, or else God knows how bad the situation could get.
On March 30, the US Secretary of State said Assad's future will be decided by the Syrian people. Assad took that as a sign that, no matter what he did, the US was aligned with Russia and would not engage in regime change. This is what happens when you appoint an oil CEO as Secretary of State.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:47 PM   #1712
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I get that the isolationist message from the US was probably picked up on, but there was no necessity to use chemical weapons specifically beyond inspiring terror, which seems to be NYT's narrative.

I just assumed Assad to be more of a rational actor than he actually is, I guess.

I don't think Western powers can build a coalition without the threat of Russia off the table. So in my mind the US has to cozy up to Russia and get them to back down prior to an international coalition, or it can unilaterally escalate its presence in Syria, or it can give up and do nothing. The first option seems like the best possible solution, but I don't know if it's still actually possible with the way Trump has been going.
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Some fascinating math and modeling on our politically divided America and how it caught us off guard

A map that shows we really do live in two different Americas - CNN
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:06 PM   #1714
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this REALLY happened. (on day 2 of Passover, no less)

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Old 04-11-2017, 05:17 PM   #1715
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Is it more likely that Spicer has full autonomy over his talking points and he's just really terrible at his job but has the full backing of the White House, or that this was a point that President Bannon specifically wanted made and we're shooting the messenger here?

I think back to him making the point at a briefing that the AHCA was so much better than the ACA because of how many more pages the ACA was and I can't imagine his bosses thinking that this was him nailing it if it wasn't the point that they wanted to make.
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:20 PM   #1717
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Is it more likely that Spicer has full autonomy over his talking points and he's just really terrible at his job but has the full backing of the White House, or that this was a point that President Bannon specifically wanted made and we're shooting the messenger here?

I think back to him making the point at a briefing that the AHCA was so much better than the ACA because of how many more pages the ACA was and I can't imagine his bosses thinking that this was him nailing it if it wasn't the point that they wanted to make.
I sincerely doubt Prez Bannon had any forced role in this, short of perhaps him and Spicey sharing some Nationalist views and chit chat and Spicey just letting some of that slip.

Most likely he's just fucking awful at the job and the Prez doesn't care because as bad as Spicer being Press Sec makes Trump look, it does a better job of distracting from how bad Trump actually is at being President
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:23 PM   #1719
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Jesus, is there any campaign promise that Trump made that he's succeeded in? Health care in limbo, no term limit anything, Mexico's obviously not paying for a wall, Syria was bombed, no special prosecutor for Clinton, still linked to his businesses, not showing taxes not under audit (2016), unqualified people chosen for posts, swamp has not been in the least bit drained, no actual deterrents for businesses to go overseas, Muslim bans are held up in court and now NATO's no longer obsolete and China's not a currency manipulator.

Getting the SC nominee was a win, but that's like the only thing he didn't set out to do. If you were a Trump supporter that wasn't a never-Hilary voter, I wonder what hope you're still holding out for. You'd have to get into the (still irrational) mindset that Trump the civilian was an idiot but Trump the president will figure things out.
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“I think our dollar is getting too strong, and partially that’s my fault because people have confidence in me."

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man, this guy is fucking stupid delusional
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