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Old 01-12-2017, 01:37 AM   #1481
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CNN and buzz feed are just leftist Fox News
Statements like this are dangerous. Defs Buzzfeed is clearly on par w/ like HuffPo. MSNBC is leftist. But outlets like CNN, WaPo, NYT, NPR, etc. are left leaning for sure, but to just write them off as leftist Fox News is dismissing a lot of reasonable journalism. Even Buzzfeed and Fox News sometimes have some high quality reporting. A major concern is that everyone just seems to be throwing the "fake news" label on things that disagree with their narrative, even if it's high quality journalism.
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Old 01-12-2017, 05:42 AM   #1482
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FBI official release- clapper says the document that even buzzfeed itself said was probably fake, is fake

Did y'all really think a golden shower Obama envy story full of typos was real?

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsro...nt-elect-trump

CNN and buzz feed are just leftist Fox News

God damn the news is so bad now. The criteria for believing any story is just however you lean politically, since fact checking is dead

Of course Clapper could also be Russian. Everybody is a Russian, obv

How did you arrive at any of that from the press release? He says 3 things:

1) Not a US intelligence community product - we knew this.
2) US intelligence community does not know if this information is reliable, and the report was not a factor in determining the Russia conclusion.
3) Report was included to provide a picture of what might be out there that threatens national security? (Don't really understand this one - you would think there would be some interest by the intelligence community to investigate the credibility of this information that threatens national security.)

This press release is pushback against Trump's claim that the intelligence community leaked this report on purpose - for some reason. I honestly don't know anymore with Trump.
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:00 PM   #1483
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FBI official release- clapper says the document that even buzzfeed itself said was probably fake, is fake
Um, no he didn't.

EDIT: fucking page break, sporked by 7 hours.

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The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions.
Not even close to the same thing as saying it was probably fake.

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Did y'all really think a golden shower Obama envy story full of typos was real?

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsro...nt-elect-trump

CNN and buzz feed are just leftist Fox News

God damn the news is so bad now. The criteria for believing any story is just however you lean politically, since fact checking is dead

Of course Clapper could also be Russian. Everybody is a Russian, obv
The hilarious thing about this is that it doesn't matter whether it's true or not - everyone already assumed this sort of thing existed with Trump, so as soon as someone posts something that looks even somewhat credible, the assumption is that it's real. Yet we elected him President.
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:23 PM   #1484
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38591382

Death by suicide or polonium?

Can't begin to imagine the terror of being chased by KGB.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:49 PM   #1485
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CNN and Fox News are definitely the ones you catch lying the most

Buzzfeed obv on a lower level from the get go, as a clickbait marketer.

Agreed that the really pathetic thing is that the story about Trump sounds so believable that it's hard not to buy it.

Anyway, if you want to believe in Russian golden shower blackmail controlling the country over this, by all means. But I have you in with Hillary conspiracy theorists at this juncture.

Something far less specific and loony, but still important involving Russia? Then I'm with you.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:54 PM   #1486
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It's just bonkers to me man. The standards of evidence people require to accuse Obama and Hillary of things seem to be way higher than those required to accuse Trump of things. At what point do you admit that everybody with a pony just picks what they want and rolls with it?

In any event, my fingers are crossed that we see an actual action taken to depose trump, if it really is known that his victory is significantly attributable to Russian interference. I have a funny feeling that nothing will happen, and the only thing we'll get within 30 years will be blacked out and from a FOIA request.
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Old 01-12-2017, 05:01 PM   #1487
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Death by suicide or polonium?

Can't begin to imagine the terror of being chased by KGB.
I once found a list of deaths by isotope consumption on Wikipedia, and almost all of them were coincidentally Russian enemies

Ofc we all know about the most famous one

It's also been speculated that the Dylatov Pass Incident was some kind of experiment with a dirty grenade or bomb.
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Old 01-12-2017, 07:26 PM   #1488
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Old 01-13-2017, 09:06 AM   #1489
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I once found a list of deaths by isotope consumption on Wikipedia, and almost all of them were coincidentally Russian enemies

Ofc we all know about the most famous one

It's also been speculated that the Dylatov Pass Incident was some kind of experiment with a dirty grenade or bomb.
Yea because the Japanese figured out how to mutate using isotopes before Wikileaks was invented. Stay #woke and tin foil up.
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Old 01-18-2017, 04:34 AM   #1490
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