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Old 01-07-2017, 09:50 PM   #1461
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You can't be serious right?

Somebody stop victim blaming that poor defenseless DNC that did nothing wrong and will totally turn it around at those midterms because this was purely Russias doing.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:12 PM   #1462
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You can't be serious right?

Somebody stop victim blaming that poor defenseless DNC that did nothing wrong and will totally turn it around at those midterms because this was purely Russias doing.
It doesn't matter how slutty a girl dresses, or where she passes out, or if she's led guys on all night, or even if she did criminal shit like steal from them. It's fine if you believe she made a series of poor decisions that contributed to the outcome, but you should not be OK with the rape as a result of circumstances.

What the DNC as a party deserves and what our country allows are separate issues. Nobody's saying they're blameless, but you shouldn't be OK with Russia's role in this regardless. Doesn't matter if they were fucking with Jill Stein or Gary Johnson who had zero shot at winning. You should not be OK with a foreign power inserting their influence in our election process.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:14 PM   #1463
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:27 PM   #1464
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:21 AM   #1465
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It doesn't matter how slutty a girl dresses, or where she passes out, or if she's led guys on all night, or even if she did criminal shit like steal from them. It's fine if you believe she made a series of poor decisions that contributed to the outcome, but you should not be OK with the rape as a result of circumstances.

What the DNC as a party deserves and what our country allows are separate issues. Nobody's saying they're blameless, but you shouldn't be OK with Russia's role in this regardless. Doesn't matter if they were fucking with Jill Stein or Gary Johnson who had zero shot at winning. You should not be OK with a foreign power inserting their influence in our election process.
Not sure we're on the same wavelength here

There is no reason that expecting real and tangible change or of an organization like the DNC after this huge cycle of loss means I have no issue with Russian influence

Feel free to check the opinions of Bernie sanders or tulsi Gunbard or Michael Moore on what lost this election and needs change

They aren't wrong because Russia was also an issue

I feel like y'all are arguing against a straw man here. The loss was multi-faceted, and I don't understand how pretending this was all of even mostly Russia does any good at all.
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:00 AM   #1466
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Yeah I don't care about the loss anymore. Trump said even without Russian interference the results would be the same. Being right about this doesnt mean you should be fine with the hacking. The intent matters just as much as the result. If a foreign power shoots a missile at us and zero people die as a result, it doesn't mean we should be cool with being attacked.
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:08 AM   #1467
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What was in the Podesta emails that was really so incriminating anyway? The fact that HRC was tipped off ahead of time that they'd be asking a question about the drinking water at a debate in Flint, MI? I hope the takeaway isn't that the democrats only lost pretty much every case in the entire country because of the revelations from Russian hacking.

Russia was clearly and obviously trying to influence our election online through means that cross the line for what's acceptable. They did that because the sanctions have destroyed their economy and they're desperate. Now that the election is official, that shouldn't even be a partisan issue anymore.
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:59 PM   #1468
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:57 PM   #1469
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:04 PM   #1470
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