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Old 02-02-2017, 10:34 PM   #1601
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What's your game plan? Talk about it?
Humorous side parodies coupled with exaggerated overreactions to out of context parts of bigger picture issues seems to be what all the other haters are going with.
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:58 PM   #1602
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"he's doing what he said he'd do" is the pro-trump argument i see a lot in that r/ATS thread and elsewhere. what does that mean? that these people are so tired of lying pols that theyre just satisfied he's keeping campaign promises? like, they just wanted to shake up politics as usual in washington, and they don't have strong feelings about the issues? or does it mean that they don't have a very good defense of these positions so they're going w/ this? OR does that mean they don't even necessarily agree with these positions, but at least he kept his promises?
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:41 AM   #1603
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I can't believe CNN is continuing to defend ANTIFAs actions at Berkeley. And those of the plainclothes people throwing punches and bottles.

No, this is not fake



The headlines are amazing too. Apparently a gay guy with a black boyfriend is a white supremacist extremist nazi and the rioters are all heroes. Didn't know CNN was this fucked on issues relating to race.

That guy is a total piece of shit, but goddamn. We had an actual communist and a radical Christian fundamentalist who wants women treated like children speak at tech in 2013 and nobody felt like setting the town on fire as parts of their protests. What the shit?

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Old 02-03-2017, 09:13 AM   #1604
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Extremism on either end is terrible, but it's hard to take critics of the Berkeley rioters seriously when they were curiously silent about the Bundy protest and the whole punching black people at Trump rallies thing.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:14 AM   #1605
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How about those Berkeley riots with fire and explosions and injuries?

Nothing like good old peaceful protest
Those were anarchists and not protestors
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Pretty close to the same thing I hear out of the right, yet they get shut down for saying it.

Im familiar with Berkeley and Antifa. It's what happens when you let your entire town go full SJW. Been brewing there a long time


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Pretty close to the same thing I hear out of the right, yet they get shut down for saying it.

Im familiar with Berkeley and Antifa. It's what happens when you let your entire town go full SJW. Been brewing there a long time


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Yeah, I grew up in the East Bay and used to go to Berkeley a lot when I was a teenager. I've been back to visit quite a few times as an adult. One thing I can safely say, is that Berkeley is always ahead of the curve. Basically, anything that is "popular" there now will reach the rest of the country in about a year or so.
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That's really interesting. How far back does antifa go? Does the average person support that kind of thing, or is there just a strong sense of social justice and then that crew and others we hear about at Berkeley are radicals?
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That's really interesting. How far back does antifa go? Does the average person support that kind of thing, or is there just a strong sense of social justice and then that crew and others we hear about at Berkeley are radicals?
Pretty sure Antifa is a European thing

The average person does not condone violence, you have to remember... these are all the descendants of flower children and hippies. They really do believe in the utopian dream.

The majority of the anarchists live in Oakland. (I read somewhere that they came down Bancroft Ave. (It's a major street that connects Oakland and Berkeley) These people come out all the time, it's just now that it's generating media attention.

I really wish there was a better way to describe it, but anarchism is not scoffed at in the Bay. There's a very old punk scene, and you have angry white youths who want so badly to rage against the machine, that they choose this as their avenue of expression.
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I really wish there was a better way to describe it, but anarchism is not scoffed at in the Bay. There's a very old punk scene, and you have angry white youths who want so badly to rage against the machine, that they choose this as their avenue of expression.

A lot of young people probably feel that they need to check the interior of the system that cares about only one culture, and frankly they are probably right in feeling so.

I can understand that vibe. I'll agree that something must be done about vengeance, a badge, and a gun. At this point, we can't waste a day when the night brings a hearse, you know what I'm saying?
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