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Old 07-29-2014, 10:57 AM   #141
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was this something that was broken before?

if so how would you have fixed it?

if not why was it "fixed"?
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was this something that was broken before?

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if not why was it "fixed"?
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:01 AM   #143
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the thing that sucks the most about this, for me, is that I pick PTQs based on my schedule. Now, I have to win 2 large tournaments in order to Q and if I win the first one I'm obligated to clear the second weekend in order to participate in the RPTQ.

Not that I've ever Q'd before but the hypothetical is annoying.
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don't forget the fun of driving by yourself if you live several hours away from the RPTQ because all your friends didn't qualify at the PPTQ and don't want to ride with you to do nothing.
6+ hours solo drive for standard after spiking a different local standard tourney. Sounds dumb.
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yes and no.

the system was only "broken" because players were incentivized to sit on their rating. instead of changing that system to remove those incentives, they just blew it up and began PWPs. everything since then has been a reaction to that terrible decision, trying to make it work like the old system.

the current system sucks for those players who are good enough to consistently qualify (ie. win a ptq once a year or so), but can't succeed at the PT level. would have been qd on rating under old system, now play one pt a year, and with the new system is probably better for these players, but more inconvenient?

its much worse for those "i want to get lucky once and go to the pt to say i did it and then never go again" players.

hmm the more i think about it the less these changes seem bad (for me), other than the stores getting to pick shitty formats for their ptqs. that's just terrible.
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:16 AM   #146
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:24 AM   #147
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yes and no.

the system was only "broken" because players were incentivized to sit on their rating. instead of changing that system to remove those incentives, they just blew it up and began PWPs. everything since then has been a reaction to that terrible decision, trying to make it work like the old system.

the current system sucks for those players who are good enough to consistently qualify (ie. win a ptq once a year or so), but can't succeed at the PT level. would have been qd on rating under old system, now play one pt a year, and with the new system is probably better for these players, but more inconvenient?

its much worse for those "i want to get lucky once and go to the pt to say i did it and then never go again" players.

hmm the more i think about it the less these changes seem bad (for me), other than the stores getting to pick shitty formats for their ptqs. that's just terrible.
The changes are probably neutral to good for you, because you're good at & active in all of the relevant formats. It will result in an effect similar to the change to the 2 format PT -- just as it used to be that half the PTs were dominated by limited specialists, half by constructed, to be successful you'll now have to be adept at both standard AND limited/modern (except for those horrible seasons in which it's standard at the regional PTQs). The system will be more skill-testing in that respect. It will also eliminate the ridiculously large PTQ, which is a good thing.

I think the point about modern card values dropping is probably true, as it will become a niche format for all but the 3100 people who qualify for the regional PTQ each season. It also means people who are good at/actively test modern will have a HUGE edge at the RPTQ because most people won't have the time or inclination to think about the format until they win a PPTQ. This will also be true for limited, but to a lesser extent.
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It's Dallas.

There are 16 in the US.

Cali will get 3. Seattle/Portland will get 1. Denver will get 1. East coast will get 5. Florida will get 1. Chicago/Indy will get 2. KC will get 1. Dallas will get 1. That leaves a single regional RPTQ. Maybe it's Nashville. I don't know what the fuck they're doing about Hawaii and Alaska.

Even if I over estimated Cali and the east coast, I doubt they'll put a RPTQ in Austin and another one in the OKC region instead of killing 2 birds with Dallas.
My guess is California gets 2, though maybe Northern CA gets 2 and southern gets 1. They seem to have a lot more PTQs up there under the old (current) system than we do down here. Possibly Vegas/Albuquerque gets one for the desert states.
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hmm the more i think about it the less these changes seem bad (for me), other than the stores getting to pick shitty formats for their ptqs. that's just terrible.
I don't know about this. I think at best it'll be about the same. If the PPTQs have only 50 or so players show up, and there are about 10 in Houston spread out for through 2 month. Odds of qualifying for the RPTQ is still 60-70% at best. Odds of top 8ing a RPTQ is 40-50% at best if it's limited. I like my chances better with a full limited season worth of PTQs. I think I qualified during 3 out of the last 4 limited seasons.

If traveling every other weekend is an issue then I can see the change making sense for you.
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I don't know about this. I think at best it'll be about the same. If the PPTQs have only 50 or so players show up, and there are about 10 in Houston spread out for through 2 month. Odds of qualifying for the RPTQ is still 60-70% at best. Odds of top 8ing a RPTQ is 40-50% at best if it's limited. I like my chances better with a full limited season worth of PTQs. I think I qualified during 3 out of the last 4 limited seasons.

If traveling every other weekend is an issue then I can see the change making sense for you.
well i think its easier to qualify under new system than it is currently during standard and modern season, and about the same during limited season? maybe its harder because less free wins at the RPTQ sealed tournament (if its even sealed? maybe they could do draft!)
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